Horta-Mari Loke Odamatan ba Woodside Xanana ho Povu Taka

Kupa: Prezidente Horta Ho Mari Sai Papagaiu Woodside
Iha loron 07/05 delegasaun Woodside ne’ebe lidera husi Don Voelte mai hasoru malu ho Prezidente da Republika Demokratika Timor Leste, Jose Ramos Horta no Sekretariu Jeral Partidu Fretilin Dr. Mari alkatiri. Iha fatin Primeiru Ministru RDTL lakohi atu hasoru malu ho delegasaun ne’e inklui rejeita proposta enkontru ne’ebe husu husi Ministru Negosiu Estranjeiru Australia ne’ebe sei hala’o iha Aileu loron 14/05/2010 tan ba diskorda ho obsaun kadoras Greater Sunrise. Iha semana ruma liu ba Prezidente da Republika foo sai ona ninia sujeztaun atu dezenvolvimentu greater sunrise uza FLNG maibe IV Governu mantein nafatin Kadoras ne’e atu dada mai Timor Leste.

Prezidente da Republika hasoru malu ho Ulun boot Woodside iha (07/05) tuku 12:00 OTL. “Ha’u atu enkontru ho ema husi Woodside agora,” dehan Horta Minutu ruma antes delegasaun Woodside too iha palasiu Prezidente.

Maibe antes ne’e PR dehan ona ninia diponibilidade atu ko’alia ho Woodside. “Ha’u Prontu no oviamente sei kontente liu tan atu simu vizita husi Woodside nia CEO, Sr. Don Voelte no ninia ekipa. Nune’e ha’u bele rona direitamene sira nia argumentu kona ba vantajen sira nia desizaun hodi obta sistema Floating LNG iha prosesu gas iha area Greater Sunrise, duke kadoras ida ba Darwin ka mai Timor Leste,” dehan Horta.

“Ha’u la iha opiniaun firmeza kona ba asuntu ida ne’e maibe ne’e hatudu hanesan obsaun kompromi ida. Maibe kompromi ida ne’e tenke bazea ba estudu tekniku no komersial nian. Sasan sira ne’e labele bazea ba lina kompromi politika nian. Buat ne’e tekniku no ne’e mos kona ba komersial.”

Horta mos ladun kontente ho pozisaun Governu ninian ho la aceita Woodside ninia anunsiu kona ba uza Floating LNG iha dezenvolvimentu Greater Sunrise. “Totalmente governu la konsulta ho ha’u kona ba rejeksaun ba Woodside ho ninia konsorsiu nia proposta investimentu atu harii Floating LNG. Nune’e ha’u preokupa ho ita nia parte foti pozisaun ruma hanesan fali buat ne’e isu politika ida. Buat ne’e ekonomia, buat ne’e komersial, financial no buat ne’e teknikal nune’e la iha buat ida ho soverania no independensia,” PR dehan.

Iha enkontru ne’eba Prezidente da Republika mos konvida atu membru konsellu do Estadu mos partisipa maibe husi membru nain sanulu 13 Konsellu ne’e partisipa de’it nain haat hodi rona esplikasaun husi Woodside. Woodside halo aprezentasaun ninia planu liu husi power point no simu perguntas balun Xefe do Estadu.

“Ne’e enkontru di’ak tebes no ami apresia tebes ho Prezidente ninia tempu no ninia perguntas no opiniaun mesak diak,” Ulun boot woodside dehan ba Jornalista sira hafoin de aprezentasaun.

Antes enkontru ho Woodside ba Jornalista sira PR hatudu ninia preokupasaun kona ba manifestasaun hasoru Xefe boot kompania Woodside ho ninia sosiu sira iha loron kinta tuku neen iha aeroportu nicolao Lobato.Joven sira ne’e lori espandux lubun ruma no iha espanduk ida foo lembra fali Woodside ba kazu ne’ebe mosu iha nasaun Mauritania, “Timor Leste la’os Mauritania.” Lia fuan ne’e halo oin mean ba kompania Woodside no Demo ne’e konsege empata minutu balun deslokasaun delegasaun Woodside mai dili laran hodi enkontru ho Prezidente Jose Ramos Horta ho sekretariu Jeral partidu Fretilin Dr. Mari Alkatiri. “Buat pipeline ne’e la’os resolve ho manifestasaun. Ita bele halo manifestasaun oioin maibe desizaun mai husi Dialogu, negosiasaun husi ita nia governu ho investores sira. Tan ba buat ne’e investor sira maka tau osan iha ne’eba nune’e ita tenke rona sira nia estudu. Iha mundu ne’e ha’u nunka rona kompania mina atu dada pipeline ba iha fatin ne’e ka ne’eba sira halo tan ba manifestasaun,” dehan Horta ho hamnasa sinista.

Eis diplomata ulun Timor Leste nian ne’e sei hatudu ninia pragmatizmu hodi afavor ba proposta husi Woodside. .

“Ha’u hakarak pipeline ne’e mai maibe ha’u mos pronto atu simu obsaun seluk, se ha’u haree ke obsaun be dada pipeline mai Timor ne’e teknikamente perigozu ba ita rasik, ba meu ambiente, no se ita haree karung demais tan ba prosesu ne’e karun tebetebes,” relata Horta.

Xefe Estadu lamenta nafatin katak nia seidauk simu estudu ruma husi parte Governu Timor Leste hodi foo roman ba nia atu defende pozisaun TL ninian iha kadoras Sunrise. Nune’e Ulun Boot nasaun ne’e dehan, “Ita nia governu mos tenke aprezenta ho Prezidente da Republika. Para se ha’u atu defende ne’e iha Australia, defende dialogu ho investor sira ha’u tenke iha dadus. Governu mos tenke iha dadus loloos. Governu labele hateten deit, ami mehi ami hakarak pipeline ne’e mai Timor.”

Rui castro hateten, “la devia Prezidente hasoru malu ho kompania ne’ebe la prudente hanesan woodside no kompania ne’e la respeitu produtu nia nain, loloos ita la presiza tan atu ko’alia ho nia.”

Emprezariu nasional ne’e expresa ninia lamentasoens ba hahalok pragmatizmu Prezidente da Republika ne’ebe hahu haluha ema ki’ak hodi hakuak kompania Woodside.“Xefe estadu dehan nia haree ba aspektu tekniku no komersial nia konsidera atu simu namlele iha tasi leten. Opiniaun ne’ebe hasai husi Xefe Estadu ne’e la refleta aspirasaun maioria povu timor leste ne’ebe hakarak greater Sunrise ne’e dada mai timor. Loloos hanesan Xefe de Estadu labele foo dalan uitoan mos..uitoan mos…. ba WoodSide para dehan Xefe Estadu ne’e sei iha posibilidade para ita atu ko’alia.,” dehan Rui.

“Ha’u kontesta Prezidente da Republika ne’ebe iha kampania dehan ha’u prezidente ba ema ki’ak enatun nia mos tenke hahalok hanesan ne’e mos la’os foo fali sinal apoiu ba kompania ida.”

“Se Greater Sunrise konsege dada mai Timor maka sei foo servisu balun ba ema Timor oan sira hanesan bele hamoos rai, seguransa, fase bikan ka fase roupa no sei iha buat barak tan. Ne’e pelumenus aumenta rendimentu ba ema ki’ak balun.”

“Tan ba ne’e maka ha’u foo apoiu mill pursentu ba komandante Kay Rala Xanana Gusmao ho ninia governu no mos husu apoiu ba lideransa Timor oan hotu-hotu par abele mantein pozisaun hodi hateten ba Australia katak…Mina ne’e tenke dada mai Timor. Se Australia ho Woodside lakohi para tiha, husik ba futuru. Tan ba Timor Ne’e la’os jajahan Australia nian. Timor ne’e la’os Australia ho Woodside nia oan. Timor ne’e nasaun ida.”

Rui mos deskonfia ekipa ne’ebe ba halo negosiasaun ba Greater Sunrise hodi dehan, “ha’u hanoin kompania ne’e la’os mesak maibe iha interese mos husi nasaun sira ne’ebe iha interese ba mina ho sira hetan mos apoiu husi Timor oan balun ne’ebe dala ruma sai hanesan oportunista politika tan ba ne’e maka sira nafatin barani matein sira nia hakarak ba Australia ka hakarak iha tasi leten maibe sira nunka ko’alia hakarak mai Timor. Agora daudaun ha’u kwatir liu ba Timor oan sira ne’ebe kaer pasaporte rua hanesan pasaporte Australia ho Pasaporte Timor mak reprezeta timor sai negosiador. Sira iha interese dubla tan ba iha parte ida sira hakarak defende interese Timor no iha parte seluk sira mos lakohi lakon sira nia cidadania Australia.”

“Buat ne’ebe importante maka Timor oan tenke halo dialogu ba malu para ko’alia ba ema bainaka ne’e ho lia fuan ida de’it. Labele Prezidente ko’alia oin ida, Pm ida, Prezidente Parlamentu seluk no Sekretariu Jeral fretilin ida. Ne’e maka ladun diak. Kuandu ita Timor oan hotu hakarak pipa Greater Sunrise tenke mai TL maibe ita ko’alia la hanesan ne’e ita foo dalan ba inimgu atu bele haforsa sira nia pozisaun. La buat ida hanesan sa ida maka eis PM dehan tenke dialogu labele taka odamatan maibe kadoras maka tenke mai Timor Leste.”

Iha Parte seluk Jose Gusmao, eis Xefe Gabinete iha Primeiru Ministru Estanislao da Silva ninia tempu lamenta ho lala’ok prezidente da Republika ninian.
“Sementara Primeiru Ministru halo kampania atu dada pipeline mai Timor nia sai tiha fali opozisaun ba PM. Sementara Povu iha baze ne’eba ezije ba Primeiru ministru atu dada buat ne’e mai. Maibe Prezidente halo ninian keta-ketak fali.”


Nia hanoin katak, “Prezidente rona liu ema husi liur duke rona povu iha rai laran ne’e nia lian. Uluk ne’e ita ko’alia nia rona no nia halo maibe agora ne’e lae ona.”

“Ha’u hakarak pipeline mai Timor 100 pursentu. La iha kompromi tan.”

Jose mos deskonfia atuasaun Prezidente da Republika ninian ne’e tauk Australia nia presaun. “Keta halo tauk atu sai hanesan Alaktiri, loron ruma ema mai demo be Primeiru Ministru Australia telephone mai haruka tun husi kargu.”

Nia dehan atetude Prezidente nian ne’e kontra prosedimentu normal estadu ninian no, “se ola-ola ita hakarak buka oin hatudu katak ita nia ne’e ema ne’e kompromistis maibe haluha tiha povu nia tuntutan.”

Iha parte seluk Gastao alias Tigre husi Remexio ne’e mos kestiona PR ninia enkontru ho Woodside ne’e. “Prezidente da Republika tenke hatudu pozisaun hanesan Xefe estadu. Tan ba kuandu Governu hakarak atu dada pipa mai nia labele halo kontradiz fali maibe tenke apoiu.”

Gastao mos kestiona konsistensia Prezidente ba ema ki’ak ninia pozisaun. “Ko’alia katak atu defende ema ki’ak no luta ba ema ki’ak para labele ki’ak tan iha rai ida ne’e maibe na realidade sira ko’alia parte ida no hanehan fali povu iha parte seluk.” Nia Promete bainhira Primeiru Ministru sama ain iha Remexio iha dia 12/05/2010 nia sei husu kestaun Greater sun Rise.

Iha parte seluk Prezidente da Republika lakontente ho Governu ne’ebe seidauk foo rezultadu estudu husi Petronas ba nia.
“Ha’u husu ona dala rua ba ha’u nia Primeiru Ministru katak ha’u hakarak haree estudu husi Petronas estudu ne’ebe hala’o ona iha tinan rua nia laran no bele hotu iha fulan neen nia laran maibe ha’u seidauk haree no ha’u seidauk rona,” Horta hateten.

“ Ha’u surpreza ho sira ne’ebe responsabiliza, Sekreatriu Estadu Alfredo Pires seidauk hetan tempu ruma iha semana ka fulan balun kotuk atu entrega ba ha’u estudu ne’ebe halo husi Petronas no kala seidauk hetan tempu ruma atu briefing leader opozisaun Dr. Alkatiri no membru parlamentu nian tan ba buat ne’e isu nasional, “Horat lamenta.
Maibe tuir fontes jornal ne’e iha palasiu Prezidente katak iha loron 06/05/2010 sekretariu Estadu Rekursu Naturais Alfredo Pires leva rezultadu estuda ne’ebe governu halo ho tulun husi kompania balun husi Malaisya no Korea ba PR maibe Horta lakohi simu Alfredo pires. “Hodiseik Sekretariu Estadu Rekursu Naturais mai iha ne’e atu entrega dokumentu estudu ba Prezidente maibe katuas lakohi simu nia. Nia hein, hein too fila deit no Prezidente nein hakarak hateke ba ninia oin,” dehan fontes ne’e.

Husu kona ba prezensa Pires nian iha ai tarak laranPrezidente nega hodi hateten, “la’e, ha’u la hasoru malu ho Sr. Alfredo Pires.”

Iha momentu ruma Gabinete Prezidente da Republika husu atu SERN haruka ema ruma lori dokumentus estudu kadoras Greater Sunrise nia ba Prezidente maibe tan ba dokumentus ne’e segredu nasaun nian maka Alfredo Pires lori rasik ba atu entrega ema numeru um iha nasaun ne’e. Maibe Lauriadu Premiu da Paz ne’e izola tiha Pires iha sala de espera no la’o liu mos la hateke.

Ha’u lori duni dokumentus balun ba rasik atu entrega ba Prezidenti atu haree depois maka ha’u atu ba fali halo aprezentasaun segundu. Maibe hein hein kala too ona tempu Sr. Prezidente fila tiha ba uma depois ha’u mos lori dokumentus fila fali de’it,” dehan Pires ba Jornal ne’e bainhira konfirma via telemovel iha lokraik (06/05).

Tuir informasaun katak Sekretariu Estadu Rekursu Naurais ne’e tuur iha sala de espera iha kedan dalan atu tama no sai husi gabinete Sr. Prezidente ninian maibe lakon oportunidade atu foo dokumentus ne’ebe Prezidente sempre dehan la simu ne’e. “Kerdizer ha’u hatene katak ha’u ba iha ne’eba ne’e oras servisu. Sr. Prezidente Preokupadu hela i too ona entaun ha’u la hetan oportunidade atu entrega dokumentus ne’ebe ha’u lori fila fali,” dehan Alfredo ho lian triste.

Tuir ajenda Prezidente da Republika iha loron (07/05) mos define ona atu hasoru malu ho Sekretariu Estadu Rekursu Naturais maibe dala ida tan la hetan fatin too Prezidente kaer lima ho Don Voelte Alfredo nia inus la mosu.
Alfredo lakohi atu haruka kualker ema ida atu lori segredu ne’ebe tula ba nia kapas no nia la etrega dokumentus ne’ebe segredu liu ba kualker ema ida tan ba nune’e to’o iha

Prezidente da Republika sempre cici katak nia seidauk simu inforasaun ruma husi Sekretaria estadu Rekursu Naturais maibe tuir dadus ne’ebe jornal ne’e rekoila hatudu katak iha Marsu 2009 Sekretaria Estadu rekursu naturais ba halo ona aprezentasaun ida ba Prezidente no iha momentu ne’eba PR Horta gosta loos rezultadu ne’e. Tuir fali iha fulan Agusto 2009 mos Sekretariu Estadu Alfredo Pires ho ninia ekipa ba halo hato’o tan informasaun balu dba Prezidente da Republika.

“La’e Governu la kohi atu hasoru Woodside kuandu sira nia atetude nafatin de’it hanesan ne’e,” dehan pires.

Iha Kinta Feira tuku 10 dader oras timor leste delegasaun Woodside hasoru malu mos ho porta feixada ho Dr. mari alkatiri hanesan Sekretariu Jeral ne’ebe hamosu deskonfiansa ba parte balun. “Ha’u uluk kedas defende pipeline mai Timor Leste maibe agora ha’u la iha dadus teknikus atu deskute ho sira (woodside), governu la fornese dadus mai ha’u I sira mos la fornese mai ha’u.”

“Pozisaun atu lori pipeline mai ne’e ita hotu nian maibe pozisaun lakohi dialogu ne’e sala. Ne’e ha’u la apoiu.”

Husu kona ba karik nia iha esperansa nafatin atu kadoras mina ne’e mai TL Dr. Mari dehan, “se Governu iha kapasidade atu dirije prosesu ne’e tuir dalan ha’u la’os de’it iha esperansa maibe ha’u iha certeza. Mas Governu hatudu ona la iha kapasidade. Kuandu ita la iha kapasidade subar ita nia aan iha deklarasaun politika de’it.”

Haree ba deklarasaun husi Sekretariu Jeral Partidu Fretilin ne’e Kupa alega katak, “Mari Alkatiri iha kinta feira kotuk ne’e, hafoin rapat ho Woodside, ko’alia loloos de’it nu’udar porta voz Woodside ninian no hatuun Governu Timor Leste.

Nune’e nia husu karik atu halakon deskonfiansa husi publiku diak liu Dr. Mari foo sai kompletu rezultadu enkontru ne’e. Tuir Kupa nia kestiona tan ba nia la haree Prezensa Prezidente partied Fretilin, Xefe bankada opozisaun no membru partidusira seluk.“Ne’e la’os enkontru ba dala uluk maibe ha’u simu sira dala rua ona. I iha tempu enkontru ne’e ha’u dehan ba sira katak ha’u labele ko’alia barak kona ba tekniku nian tan ba a h’u seidauk simu estudu ruma husi Governu nune’e husi Woodside,” esplika mari.

Nune’e Mari lamenta ho Governu Xanana nian ne’ebe la simu Woodside halo ko’alia bainhira kompania ne’e mai Dili. “Ita labele taka odamatan uma depois tama kuartu taka tan odamatan hafoin hakilar husi Janela. Ne’e la’os negosiador ida ke diak,” viadas Mari.

Hermenegildo Lopes alias Kupa, eis ekipa kampaniador ba Horta nia kandidatura iha elisaun prezidensial 2007 duun Prezidente Ramos Horta no Dr. Mari Alkatiri sai papagaiu ba kompania Woodside.

“Parte governu lakohi hasoru malu ho woodside ida ne’e mos konsidera hanesan negosiasaun. Tantu DR. Mari Alkatiri ho Horta labele defende interese Woodside nian ou Porta Voz. Ida ne’e dezvia ka viola tiha regra prosedimentu institusional tan ba halo grave negosiasaun Estadu Timor Leste hodi dada Pipeline mai Timor Leste. Nune’e ha’u triste haree ita nia prezidente ho Dr. Mari sai woodside nia papagaiu,” dehan Kupa.

Eis ulun boot ba negosiasaunTratadu Tasi Timor ne’e sujere hanesan nasaun ne’ebe simu investidor TL presiza atu tenke kuidadu no matan moris. “Tenke buka konese klean argumentu investidor nian; tenke dezenvolve ita nia argumentu atu bele defende ho sucesu interese povu nian; ita tenke loke dalan atu tau ita nia argumentu kontra sira nian. Hanesan ne’e de’it maka ita bele manan. Se ita la konfronta sira nia argumentus ho ita nian, ita nunka atu hetan solusaun (win/win solution). Parte ne’ebe de’it la simu atu lakon,” hateten mari.

Tuir surat G.A.Mckee iha loron 26/10/2002 dekreta iha pajina 20 husi pajina 38 informa katak Dr Mari ne’ebe hanesan Primeiru Ministru iha Primeiru Governu Konstitusional mos afavor pipeline ba Darwin. “Karik ha’u maka investidor ida ha’u defende pipeline mai Australia tan ba razaun rua,’ nia esplika. Ida maka merkadu gas nian iha, Australia sosa gas.O bele fo haris Timor tomak ho gas maibe la iha ema sosa. Ida tan maka tasi mai Australia ladun klean, maibe tasi ba Timor Leste klean liu. Teknikamente bele dada pipeline ba Timor, maibe folin metro ida aas tebes liu iha tasi ne’ebe klean liu.ne’e katak investidor sira sei lakon osan.

Foufoun Dr. Mari nega dehan, “G.A. Mckee hakerek buat sira ne’e responsabilidade ninian no ha’u nunka hateten buat ida ne’e; ha’u klarifika mak ne’e, ha’u nunka hateten bu’at ida i nia nunka sai ha’u nia asesor.”

Maibe bainhira Jornal ne’e sani hikas lia fuan sira iha artigu G.A.Mckee nian ne’e Dr. Mari rekonese katak nia ko’alia duni. “Aaahhhh…ne’e ha’u ko’alia duni. Se ha’u maka investidor ha’u hakarak pipa ba Australia. Ne’e la’os signifika ha’u hanesan Timorense ha’u hakarak ba Australia. Hanesan investidor sira hakarak ba Australia tan Woodside Austraianu. La signifika ke ha’u hanesan Timor oan ha’u sei husik buat ne’e ba Australia.”

Dr. Mari esplika sentidu husi lia fuan ninian ne’e maka atu buka hatene argumentu ema sira ne’ebe kontra Timor Leste ninia pozisaun. “Ita atu halo negosiasaun ho ema ida ita tenke hatene sira nia hakarak, sira pontu forte no fraku. Ha’u ba halo negosiasaun ne’e defende interese nasaun ne’e ninian. Tan ne’e ha’u ko’alia hanesan ne’e la’os apoiu ona sira.” dehan mari.

Eis PM ne’ebe monu husi ninia kadeira iha Juniu 2006 ne’e deklara apertamente funu ba pipeline mai TL iha ceremonia asina akordu Greater Sunrise iha Sydney loron 05/01/2005 ne’ebe halakon tiha ninia jantar ho PM Australia iha momentu ne’eba. Mari esplika katak nia la fiar kualker kompania multinasional ida inklui Woodside maibe presiza dialogu no negosiasaun hodi hetan solusaun. “Kuandu simu investidor ida ita tenke konsiente no kuidadu tan investidor buka manan osan barak liu diak liu. Investidor sei bedok ba bedok mai atu halo ita monu iha sira nia argumentu. Se ita maka investidor karik mos ita sei halo tuir dalan ne’e,” esplika Mari.

Maibe Hermenegilgo Kupa alega nafatin katak dezde 2002 Primeiru ministru Primeiru Governu konstitusional tau ona iha kauza kadoras mai Timor Leste maiske konsege negosia fahe rezeita reseita Bayu Udang no Greater sunrise ninian. ‘DR. Mari la iha konviksaun kona ba pipeline mai Timor Leste hanesan Prof G. A. Mckee hakerek. Bainhira iha negosiasaun Tratadu Tasi timor Mari defende pozisaun loloos hanesan Woodside ninian katak pipeline diak liu ba wickhan point Darwin iha Darwin. Problema boot ida maka Mari Alkatiri maka Mari Alkatiri nunka defende Pipeline mai Timor Leste. Tan ba ne’e nia hatan 50 hanesan Australia ezije. Timor oan labele ezije definisaun fronteira maritime. Nune’e halo F-FDTL rasik hetan susar atu defende fronteira maritime, soberania RDTL nian ohin loron.”

Jose Luis Oliviera eis Diretor Yayasan Hak, duun governantes sira gadai tiha ona soberania nasaun TL iha 2002. “Ha’u hakarak hateten iha 2002 ami defende buat ida lina fronteira tasi ne’e mak prinsipal maibe tan ba ita nia governu hakarak foti medidas pragmatis konsekuensia mak ita mos tenke simu solusaun pragmatis,” dehan de Oliviera.

Tuir nia hanoin Governu ne’ebe, “pinor tiha ona soberania TL ba tinan 50 atu haree kona ba lina fronteira tasi entre Timor Leste ho Australia.”

Nune’e mos ho La’o Hamutuk ninia pozisaun maka buka obsaun ida ne’ebe diak liu ba Timor Leste. “Buat ida ne’ebe diak liu ba Timor Leste maka hanesan buat ne’ebe ami ko’alia beibeik ona iha tinan lima nia laran to’o ohin maka, diak liu husik gas hirak ne’e hela tan lai tinan 5 too tinan 10 ka 20 hein too Timor Leste presiza duni ninia reseita maka hasai.”

“Iha momentu ne’eba bele dehan timor oan barak maka kualifikadu atu hetan servisu ho salariu boot iha projetu ne’e. Teknologia ne’ebe uza hodi transporte pipa mai TL dezenvolvidu liu tan ona. Risku politika iha timor Leste bele dehan menus no Kapasidade governu sira nia hodi halo negosiasaun no maneija projetu ne’e bele aumenta diak liu tan,” Charlie foo razaun.

“Iha 2004 Woodside dehan ona katak la iha posibilidade atu dada kadoras mai Timor Leste maibe agora sira la ko’alia tan ona ida ne’e tan ba agora teknologia aumenta no ema hotu konkorda katak ne’e bele dada pipa liu tasi klean liu kilometru 2000 iha Timor through. Nune’e ami kontente katak iha razaun lubun ida maka ami nia rekomendasaun halo tuir duni.”

Lao Hamutuk hanoin iha razaun barak atu kansela dezenvolvimentu ba kampu gas iha greater Sunrise. “Nune’e ami hanoin la’os buat aat kuandu negosiasaun ne’e rahun iha momentu ida ne’e.”

Tuir Charlie katak la loos kuandu parte ida lohi katak sira la iha interese ba greater sunrise. “Ne’e klaramente la loos. Klaru katak Governu Australia iha interese atu defende interese kompania Australia nian no sira nia emar servisu nain sira hanesan mos parte Timor Leste ninian.”

“Nune’e mos La loos mos kuandu Woodside hateten katak ami iha ona ami nia estudu no ami sei halo konkluzaun. Ami sei la ba esplika nia razaun maibe ami sei dehan buat ne’e sei sai hanesan ne’e ona.”

Atu resolve disputa ne’e Charlie iha hanoin hanesan ho PR no lider opozisaun. “Ami hanoin bu’at ne’e sei diak liu tan kuandu Governu Timor Leste, woodside ho sira nia parseiru sei foo ba malu informasaun ne’ebe sira ida-idak iha entre sira no sei koko atu konvense malu tuir meritu la’os hanesan bosok malu iha media ne’ebe dehan obsaun ne’e sira propoin maka diak liu nune’e maka bele hetan desizaun ida ba interese povu nasaun rua ninian I mos ba inetrese kompania no kuota nain sira mos.”

Charlie triste uitoan tan ba rekomendasaun balun maka governu iha momentu ne’eba la hola atensaun hodi ratifika tiha Seamax ho IAU ne’ebe akordu hirak ne’e prejudika tiha pozisaun Timor Leste nune’e governu sira sei hakruuk ba lei sira ne’e. “Ha’u hanoin lei sira ne’e autoriza Timor Leste no governu Australia atu hateten ami rejeita planu ne’ebe kompania propoin. Fila ba no mai fali ho planu foun. Ida ne’e maka hatudu iha pozisaun Governu Timor Leste nian daudaun ne’e. Ida ne’e maka rezulta kanselamentu ba projetu refere, ne’e maka Primeiru Ministru dehan ona katak sei husik hela ba jerasaun foun. Ne’e bele. Ha’u hanoin ida ne’e maka loos duni.”

Iha parte seluk eis negosiador ida husi parte Timor Leste fo avizu katak iha momentu negosiasaun entre Australia ho Timor Leste no Woodside mosu ameasas balun. “Tan ba kompania Osaka orijen husi Japaun. Hanesan eis negosiador ida dehan ba Tempo Semanal katak, “Japones sira dehan mai ami iha 2005 katak sira sei sosa deit Gas ne’ebe sai husi Australia, husi Timor Leste sira sei la sosa. Negosiador husi Timor Leste hatoo tan katak, “lia ne’e la’os simples tan ita la’os hasoru de’it Woodside, ita hasoru mos ConocoPhilips husi America, Shell husi Olanda, Osaka husi Japaun no Woodside husi Australia. Nune’e Negosiador ne’e Aviza katak, “is not easy is it,” (katak, “la’os fasil, hanoin took.”).
Aviza ida ne’e mos bele interpreta tuir maluk sira ida-idak ninian hanoin. Maibe buat ne’ebe importante mak Polimika Greater sunrise ne’e sai hanesan asuntu legal entre Timor Leste ho Woodside, tau en kauza boa fee husi governu Australia hodi hamenus ki’ak iha Timor Leste nune’e lalika defend demais ba sira nia tulun. Espektativa maka Timor Leste hakarak uza Greater Sunrise atu hodi dezenvolve ekonomia povu no harii infrastrutura nasaun ne’ebe sei mukit liu iha lista asia pasifiku ne’e.

PM Xanana foo Projetu Ba DR. Mari Nia Alin, PN Kestiona Legalidade

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Jacinto: Iha TL mosu Grupu ki'ik oligarkia Korruptu ida mak sei domina ekonomiaDaudaun ne'e kompañia Hidayat maka halo hela konstrusaun ba moru tahan tasi been besik oeste portu Dili no iha Igreja Motaél ninia oin hafoin hetan fiar husi governu hodi halo projetu moru tahan tasi been. Tuir dadus ne'ebé hato'o husi manajer Olegário Lopes ba deputadu 7 maka halo vizita ba fatin konstrusaun iha loron kraik tuku 15:46 Otél, loron Sesta bainhira ba fiskaliza iha fatin ne'ebá katak sira hahú servisu iha fulan Setembru la ho kontratu no projetu ne'e foufoun ninia valór US$700,000.00 tama iha pakote referendu no agora kompañia hidayat hatama fali proposta ida hodi husu hasa'e ba US$2,056,000.00.

Iha lokraik ida mais ou menus inisia fulan Setembru PM Xanana ho Ministru Obra s Publika la'o ho ain de'it besik tasi ibun Motaél ninian. La kleur de'it Kareta Sr. Ahmad Alkatiri ninia mai para besik moos iha fatin refere hodi hakat besik ba emboot na'in rua ne'e hodi ko'alia. Liu tiha loron ruma iha fatin ne'ebá hahú mosu atividade konstrusaun. Karik desizaun hola tiha ona hodi entrega Projetu halo moru tahan tasi been ho nia naruk 330 metrus, luan 4,5 metru no ninia aas metru 5 ne'e, ba Sr. Ahmad Alkatiri ninia kompañia Hidayat iha momentu ne'ebá i ikus projetu refere hatama mós iha pakote Referendu ho valór US$700,000.00. Kompañia Hidayat ninia na'in maka Sr. Ahmad Alkatiri alin husi eis PM Mari Alkatiri. DR. Mari Alkatiri fou-foun hirus loos PM Xanana hodi duun katak Pakote Referendu PM halo hodi foo benefísiu de'it ba ema balun. Karik ne'e loos duni tan ba foo duni benefísiu moos ba Eis PM ne'e ninia família balun.

Jacinto D. C. A. Goncalves estudante ida iha Dili dehan ba jornál Tempo Semanal iha Sesta feira lokraik katak, “emboot sira ne'e sempre di'ak hela de'it. Sira ajuda malu nafatin. Hetan boot foo balun malu nune'e sira hametin sira nia ukun iha nasaun ne'e.”

Jacinto mai husi família ida ne'ebé ninia ekonomia fraku iha besik baliza Bobonaru ho Ermera ninian. Tuir ninia hare katak emboot sira ne'e nunka husik malu. “Ha'u deskonfia grupu ki'ik ida maka sei ukun rai ida ne'e tan ba sira iha kondisaun atu bele haruka sira nia oan ba eskola iha li'ur ho apoiu malu hanesan daudaun ne'e. Projetu boboot sira mesak foo ba malu de'it,” dehan Jacinto ho oin triste. Iha arena polítika mosu kontradisaun entre Eis PM Alkatiri ho PM Xanana maibé iha kampu ekonomia PM Xanana ajuda haberan daudaun hela Timor Leste ninia grupu oligarkia korruptu ki'ik ida hodi nune'e hametin sira nia kbiit ukun Maubere ninia oan sira. Kala deskonfia mosu lala'ok la loos ruma iha projetu refere deputadu na'in haat husi bankada Fretilín hanesan Deputada Cipriana Pereira, Deputada Aisha Basarewan, Deputadu Francisco Branco, Deputadu Estanislao Aeixo da Silva no husi AMP reprezenta husi Deputadu Adérito Hugo da Costa, Deputadu KOTA ninian DR. Manuel Tilman ho Deputada Fernanda Borges husi PUN halo fiskaliza saun ba projetu refere iha sesta feira kotuk. Deputada na'in neen too iha fatin ne'ebá ho karreta mini bis ida no Deputadu Adérito sa'e duni ninia karreta ofisial ho kór mean. Sira la'o tama ba fatin projetu ninian hodi hare servisu, materiál konstrusaun, ekipamentu no ko'alia ho ema sira ne'ebé hala'o obra ne'ebá. Deputadu sira ne'e hasai moos foto hola nota husi parte oeste ba fali diresaun besik ponte kais ninian. Hafoin hare hotu tiha sira fila hikas ba barraka oan ne'ebé halo iha fatin konstrusaun ninia hodi tuur hale'u manajer projetu ninian hodi litik nia kona ba kontratu, totál orsamentu no liu-liu kona ba legalidade balu. Deputada Aisha husi bankada opozisaun ne'ebé tuur entre Deputada Borges ho deputadu Tilman ninia klaran husu ho lian maka'as ba mandór kompañia Hidayat ne'ebé tuur besik ninia meza servisu ho oin konfuzaun buka surat tahan balun. “Sein iha akordu ka kontratu ruma ne'e?, Imi nia proposta tama tiha iha akordu ruma maka imi asina ka iha surat ruma ka lae, oin saa ho Governu?”

Hafoin de ida ne'e deputadu Manuel Tilman telefone ba diretór kompañia ninia hodi husu moos Pergunta s hanesan no husu moos kona ba situasaun traballadór sira ninia. “Imi iha ema na'in hira maka servisu iha ne'e. 200 ka 20?” antes telefone Tilman ho ninia belun sira la'o liu ona iha fatin servisu ninian hodi hare katak volume servisu ninian ne'ebé hodi fulan tolu ona maibé sei nafatin iha 37% ne'e kala hatudu deskonfiansa kona ba uza totál traballadór sira ninian. Nune'e moos governu dezeña pakote referendu ne'e atu loke kampu servisu ba populasaun sira hodi nune'e dala barak kompañia sira buka hasa'e númeru servisu na'in iha surat tahan leten maibé hamenus iha lala'ok servisu ninian.

Iha momentu Tilman sei ko'alia hela ho diretór kompañia ninian Deputada Fernanda Borges litik hikas mandór oan ne'e tuur besik ninia meza hodi dehan, “tuir kontratu ne'e valór ba projetu ne'e hira?” Mandór oan hataan, “US$2,056,000.00 ne'e, ami hatama ona ba sira. Asina ka seidauk ha'u seidauk hatene. Mas ne'e ami nia proposta. “ Fernanda hataan hatudu ninia hakfodak, “haaaa.” mandór esplika liu tan, “tuir dezeñu ne'ebé iha.”

Fernanda husu liu tan, “Ók, resposta saa ida maka imi hetan husi imi nia proposta, karik simu tiha imi nia proposta, liu husi tender ka lae? Kuandu hatama proposta ne'e halo tender ida ba imi nia proposta ne'e a lae?”

Manajer ne'e la'ós foo resposta loloos tuir Pergunta s ne'ebé husu maibé dehan fali katak, “Proposta ne'e parese sira sei aseita iha loron ikus mai, karik.”

Fernanda teri netik ho lia duvida s liu tan, “dehan halo nusa?”

“parese iha loron ikus mai. Kontratu sei asina iha loron ikus mai,” manajer hataan.

Bainhira nia atu remata manajer ninia telemovel lian no nia simu hodi hataan, “manu, sin..sin..sin.”

Fernanda kestiona liu tan, “ita boot sira halo tiha proposta ida. Ne'e ketak ida. Agora governu kuandu dehan ba ita boot sira dehan ami iha pakote de referendu, imi bele hahú servisu ho 700 mill ne'e bazeia ba proposta saa ida husi imi. Bazeia ba dezeñu saa ida? Bazeia ba proposta ida uluk imi hatama ne'ene saa ida maka imi atu kompleta husi proposta ne'e. Purke husi 700 ba dois milloens iha diferensa boot. Agora ita boot bele responde ida ne'e para ha'u bele kompriende.”

“dezeñu ho BOQ ne'e husi Obra s publika, depois ami hare dezeñu hotu tiha, ami hatama ami nia proposta dois milloeins. Ne'e proposta ne'ebé ami hatama tuir dezeñu ne'ebé iha,” manajer ne'e hataan ho liman rua foti livru proposta millaun rua ninia kapa oin azúl ho kotuk verde.

Nia kontinua, “tuir ha'u rona 700 ne'e tama pakote referendu. Agora restu ne'e husi ne'ebé? Ne'e ha'u labele responde. Ne'e husu ba governu. Ne'e para ha'u labele hatene.”

Iha fulan kotuk jornál ne'e halo notísia kona ba projetu refere no iha inter vista ho kompañia ne'e dehan katak, “valór projetu ne'e US$700,000.00 no ami hein hela resposta husi governu. Iha momentu ne'ebá moos kompañia hidayat informa ba Tempo Semanál katak maiske projetu ne'e sira halo ona maibé seidauk simu pagamentu ruma inklui ladauk iha kontratu ruma maka asina.

Iha parte seluk vise Ministru Infraestrutura Eng. José Manuel Carrascalão dehan ba Tempo Semanál katak, “projetu ne'e tama iha pakote referendu ho valór US$700,000.00.

Bainhira tenta konfirma kona ba informasaun katak valór projetu ne'e aumenta liu US$ millaun 2 vise ministru ne'e konfirma. “Ne'e loos duni maibé tenke iha konkursu foun,” dehan Eng. José Carrascalão. Informasaun husi vise Ministru Infraestrutura soke malu ho manajer projetu kompañia hidayat ninian ne'ebé hateten katak sira hatama ona proposta ida hodi kontinua projetu refere ne'ebé tuir planu sei remata iha fulan ne'e nia laran.

“Mas 700, proposta be ita boot sira halo ne'e na mesma ida ne'e duni. Para atu konstrui ida ne'e duni, “ dehan Fernanda ho liman karuk hodi hatudu ba kotuk diresaun moru ninian.

Manajer hataan, “sin.” Fernanda ko'a lalais kedan hodi hateten, “pois, entaun ida ne'e maka ha'u nia preokupasaun..katak ita boot sira nia proposta iha montante ida boot liu. Agora pakote referendu iha 700 mill de'it. Ita nia hanoin ita boot bele kompleta projetu liu husi pakote referendu tuir dezeñu no tuir proposta ita hatama ne'e,” dehan Fernanda Borges ho ninia belun deputada Aisha Basarewan tuur iha ninia liman karuk ho liman fuan tane ninia hasan hodi fihir ba diresaun Fernanda ninian.

“Bazeia ba 700 mill tama iha pakote referendu, ami bele halo hotu purke agora atinzi ona mais de 700 mill ital. Se ida ne'e tama iha pakote referendu ami bele kompleta iha 31 de Dezembru,” manajer foo resposta ne'e konfuzu liu tan deputadu sira.

Deputada ne'e kestiona tan, “mas entaun husi 700 mill nian saa ida maka diferente ka oin seluk?

Manajer ne'e mantein ninia pozisaun defende ninia pozisaun ho governu ninian. “Ami nia proposta bazeia ba dezeñu husi Obra s publika. Ami hatama proposta. Kuandu ami hatama i ami servisu ona i ami labele para purke ami hala'o tiha ona. Atu rezolve ida hanesan ne'ene ha'u hanoin la'ós ami nia kompeténsia. Ami labele para tan ba ami hala'o tiha ona. Se ami para ha'u hanoin....,” nia ko'alia ho doko ulun ba karuk ho loos.

Maibé Borges insiste nafatin kona ba legalidade osan husi sira nia proposta. “Ha'u la husu ita boot atu rezolve. Ha'u husu ita boot atu esplika mai ami tan ba ita nia esplikasaun dehan katak imi hatama proposta ida ho dois milloeins de Dolar. I sei dehan tan depois maka akontese iha tempu oin mai. I derrepente mosu pakote referendu ba 700 mill. Agora ha'u hakarak hatene husi ita boot sira nia proposta ne'e saa ida maka ita boot sira atu halo husi ita boot sira nia proposta ne'e maka kusta de'it 700 mill ne'e? I saa ida maka sei falta atu halo?”

” Hmmmm...ha'u hanoin ida ne'e ami la tuir tender ka konkursu. Ha'u hanoin ita hotu hatene ne'e single source husi ita nia Primeiru Ministru rasik bolu Sr. Ahmad mai ehhh.....Manajer ne'e foo sinál liu husi liman ne'e esplika katak entrega de'it. Nia klaru liu tan katak, “ ne'e single source de'it tan ba ne'e maka bazeia ba dezeñu PU, ami halo ami nia proposta. Depois ami rona dehan katak 700 mill tama Pakote referendu. Restu ne'e ha'u labele hatene. Anu fiskál foun ka oin saa ne'e ha'u labele hatene.”

Iha momentu hanesan Deputada Aisha ne'ebé sani hela surat orden de servisu husi ministeriál Obra s públiku foti ulun hodi lee sai konteúdu balun husi surat refere. “portantu hare husi surat ne'e, hateten dehan, husu ba empreza atu bele ezekuta projetu referidu hanesan preparasaun materiál ho job mixed formula ba tipu de servisu concrete 12,5mpa no 24 mpa ne'e, signifika saa ida?”

Manajer oan ne'e hakat ba kuadru ne'e tara hela iha didin bebak ninia lolon ho espidol ida hodi esplika. Maibé deputadu sira ne'e hamanas nafatin ninia ulun iha lokraik tuku 16.00 ne'ebá hodi kestiona legalidade kontratu ba projetu ne'e la iha kontratu ruma maka asina ona entre governu ho kompañia Hidayat. “Ami preokupa moos ho imi nia situasaun,” dehan deputadu Francisco Branco ne'e dezde inisia tuur no hamriik nonook de'it.

Maibé manajer ne'e ho lian maka'as no fiar aan metin hodi diskute malu ho deputadu matenek na'in haksesuk malu door iha uma fukun Parlamentu nasionál nian ne'e bainhira deputadu sira ne'e sunu nia beibeik kona legalidade. “Mas Ha'u fiar katak kontratu sei asina. 100% sei asina..sei asina...iha tempu badak mai nia laran,” manajer ne'e ko'alia ho fiar an ho indika katak hanesan nia hatene ona saa maka halo daudaun iha ministeriál Obra s Publika ninia laran.

Estanislao Da Silva husi bankada Fretilín soe iska ida tenta atu kail manajer ne'e hodi dehan, “supoeniamos kontratu ne'e seidauk asina mosu eleisaun foun. Oin saa?Halo nusa?. Deputadu úniku husi bloku AMP Adérito Hugo da Costa ko'alia dehan ba manajer ne'e katak, “ida ne'e Pergunta s tentativa s ida ne'e labele responde.”

Adérito hanesan foo liu tan iis foun ba manajer oan ne'e, hodi defende ninia pozisaun atu hetan millaun rua resin husi governu AMP. Maiske kompañia Hidayat besik liu ba partidu opozisaun liu-liu na'in husi kompañia refere alin ida moos husi eis PM DR. Mari Alkatiri mak dala barak la rekoñese dala barak dehan “IV governu inkonstitusionál” no sarani kadeira Xanana Gusmão ninian ho “PM de Faktu” maibé de faktu moos habokur kompañia balun ne'ebé iha relasaun ho família DR. Alkatiri ninian.

“Ha'u fiar 100% katak iha loron besik mai, ami sei asina kontratu. Ne'ebé Kerdizér legál eeehhh....la'ós ilegál ona,” dehan Manajer ne'ebé antes debate ho membru deputadu sira ne'e, nia tau matan ba servisu hatama fatuk ba halo aliserse besik parte ponte kais ninian. Bainhira diskusaun la'o ho manas daudaun mosu moos iha fatin ne'ebá na'in ida husi kompañia Hidayat ne'ebé ninia apelidu Alkatiri maibé nia tuur nonook de'it la ko'alia buat ruma. Deputada Cipriana Pereira husi bankada Fretilín teri netik ho oin hamnasa dehan ba manajer ne'e katak,” tuir loloos ita boot hateten dehan 100% ha'u fiar. Ida ne'e de'it sala ona. Tuir loloos kontratu asina uluk.”

Fernanda Borges ajuda Cipriana hodi esplika ba manajer ne'e katak,”Estadu Timor Leste la'ós bazeia ba konfiansa de'it maibé estadu ida ne'e estadu de direitu. Estadu Timor nia lei hakerek katak antes de projetu ida la'o dezeñu ho kontratu tenke hotu asina. Asina kontratu ne'e katak garantia de kualidade tan ba ida ne'e ba povu. Povu hakarak garantia katak selu tiha hotu buat ne'e la'ós aban ba para tiha iha tasi laran lae. Maibé povu hakarak buat ne'e hela iha ne'e tinan ba tinan. Ne'e maka ami nu'udar deputadu tenke mai tau matan para hare katak tinan 10 ka 20 sea wall ne'e sei mantein hela nafatin ba povu. Husi valór osan ne'ebé gasta ne'e hetan duni nia kualidade a lae ne'e termina iha kontratu ida nia laran.”

Manajer oan ne'e tenta atu konvense deputadu sira ne'e. “Kona ba kualidade ami servisu tuir estandarte ne'ebé iha ona iha Obra s publika. Jadi buat hotu-hotu ami sei liu husi laboratóriu nein ke fatuk, nein ke simente hotu-hotu. Ami la halo sein husi laboratóriu.”

Deputada Aisha Basarewan foo hanoin hikas tan ba manajer oan ne'e katak tuir orsamentu 2010 ninia ne'ebé foin lalais aprova iha Parlamentu nasionál projetu sea wall ne'e la tama. “Maibé iha livru orsamentu ne'ebé aprova ne'e projetu nia naran ne'e la iha. Saa ida maka iha agora mosu projetu referendu 700 mill. Ne'e Kerdizér ke imi sei asina 700 mill. Ida ne'e maka agora iha tiha ona. Iha fatin seluk la iha osan ba projetu ida ne'e,” Aisha ko'alia ho doko ulun foo sinál orsamentu ba projetu ne'ebé la aprova iha PN.

Lopes dehan hikas fali katak, “ha'u bele ko'alia 700 mill mas restu de orsamentu ha'u labele klarifika. Ne'e husu ba governu ba. Purke ha'u fiar katak ami sei asina dois miloeins ital.”

Dala ida tan Francisco Branco tama arena diskusaun, “Ami iha preokupasaun tan aban bain rua iha polémika ruma ita boot sira la iha baze legál no sei sai fali vítima.

Deputadu sira ne'e hateten katak governu so foo de'it orden atu komesa servisu la iha aprovasaun ba planu no montante osan ba projetu refere. Sira moos preokupa katak tuir buat ne'ebé sira hetan hatudu katak la iha dezeñu ne'ebé korresponde ba 700 mill maibé iha de'it dezeñu ba US$2,056,000.00.

Iha fatin refere ema lubun ida maka servisu no tratór boot kinur boot ida marka ho letra “Hidayat” iha vidru oin. Maiske eleisaun 2007 liu ona tinan rua no eleisaun 2012 sei falta moos tinan rua maibé sofer ne'e hatais hela kamizola mutin ho letra mean hakerek “Fretilín” iha oin no kotuk hakerek ho letra metan dehan “Vota ba Fretilín,” suru fatuk hatún ba rai kuak hodi nune'e tratór ki'ik ne'e hatama tutan ba rai kuak ne'ebé ho bee maka nakonu hela iha nia laran.

Bainhira PM Xanana inisia atu entrega projetu referendu ba kompañia sira DR. Mari hateten ona katak PM Xanana fahe “nasi bungkus” ba kompañia sira ne'ebé iha relasaun besik ba governu AMP maibé afinál pakote referendu ne'e foo benefísiu boot liu kompañia maka iha ligasaun ho partidu Fretilín no pakote ne'e rasik xefia husi membru CCF partidu refere.

Mosu alegasaun barak kona ba pakote Referendu maibé Provedoria agora labele ezerse sira nia funsaun tan ba hafoin de lei KAK aprova iha fulan Agostu taka ona odamatan simu keixa no investigasaun ba kazu KKN ninian. Nune'e seidauk too agora deputadu sira difikulta tan prosesu eleisaun ba komisáriu tan hare liu ba individuál DR. Adérito de Jesus Soares ninian duke ba kritériu ne'ebé tau ona iha lei KAK ninia laran. “Karik Deputadu sira husi partidu Opozisaun ta'uk atu DR. Adérito sei halo investigasaun ba governu uluk nian no moos governu daudaun ninian,” dehan deputada Borges. Maioria Deputadu husi bankada opozisaun la marka prezensa iha plenária hodi prienxe koru 49 deputadu s tuir kritériu KAK ninian.

Alkaltiri Attacks Xanana Over Land for Rubber Deal - Zenilda Gusmao Involved

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Former Prime Minister of Timor-Leste, and Leader of the Opposition, Mari Alkatiri, has condemned Prime Minister Xanana Gusmao's deal to sign over 250,000 hectares of land (see full story in Tetun here) MALTIMOR Lda which is owned by Commander Tan Sri Datuk Eugenio Campos (a Timorese born Malaysian businessman) and Portuguese Consul to Malaysia.

In October 2007 Mr Campos met the Prime Minister Gusmao and members of his staff to discuss the possibility of Campos' future investments in Timor-Leste.

Campos expressed an interested in investing in the tourism, aviation, agricultural and infrastructure sectors

After several meetings in November 2008, Mr. Gusmao signed over the 250,000 hectares of land to Maltimor Lda. which is co-owned between Campos and his daughter Zenilda Gusmao.

The company proposed to use land for rubber plantations in Suai, Ainaro, Same, Vikeke and Lautem districts.  However, the Ministry of Agriculture has yet to approve the deal; and has indicated that there is no land available because some of the areas have been allocated for Heavy Oil plants.

President Jose Ramos-Horta staff organise a Support Protest. Mari Alkatiri Protests in Response.

There is a plan for a demonstration in support of President Jose Ramos-Horta. According to Tempo Semanal sources within the Palacio das Presidencia about 150 young people will meet the President at Dili airport tomorrow. Horta has been on a trip to the United States and other countries since 20 September. In September the National Parliament initially voted against letting Horta leave the country, but surrendered after he threatened to resign.

The Parliament's vote was a protest after the Head of State and leading members of the Government elected to release detained Laksaur militia commander Maternus Bere. This demonstration is creating a division within Timorese society.

Some people say that those in President's Horta's office are trying to win the President's heart.

According to a report from the Presidential Palace that between 1315 and 1540 on about 1 October the Secretary-General of FRETILIN called one of the Presidential staff to complain abou the demo in support of Horta. Former Prime Minister, and Secretary-General of FRETILIN, Mari Alkatiri, alleged that 5 advisers in the Presidential Palace are organising the demo. According to the same letter "he will not allow any FRETILIN youth to participate in our activity, and FRETILIN will mobilise their youth against us in the same day. In the same letter as quoted from the phone conversation between Alkatiri and he President's staff that the President should not "plan this activity."

On the same day PNTL officer in the President's staff Ismail Babo, former disgraced PNTL Deputy Commissioner of Operations during the 2006 Crisis, wrote the Timorese Police Commander Longuinos Monteiro to complain about Alkatiri.

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Digicell Prepares to Break TT Monopoly
Dili Tempo Semanal

The following is an interview on 27/08/2009 with Frank O'Carroll, the Business Develo­pm­e­nt Director of Digicel's South Pacific operations.

Q: This time you started contributing today to East Timor's activities and celebrations and you have contributed to this, and how sig­nificant is this contribution?

A: Yeah, we've contributed to the first East Timor bicycle race, the Tour de Timor, and Digicell has committed to funding it to the tune of US$100,000, and then there's been additional costs which we've borne ourselves, in terms of our marketing materials, t-shirts and hats, and then there's been all the branding along the route. There's been a significant contribution by Digicell, but we're fully committed to the market in Timor Leste.

We think the initiative of having the race is fantastic for the country, not just for the people of Timor Leste but for people outside the country how it's been viewed by people outside the country also. It's amazing to talk to some of the cyclists we've met in the last few days, to hear their comments on how beautiful the countryside is, and they will all be ambassadors for Timor Leste when they to home to their home countries and tell people how beautiful the country is, how friendly the people have been, and I'm very, very confident that the Tour de Timor will become a huge event next year, and even bigger in the years ahead.

Q: It seems likely that Digicell is very committed in investing in this country's telecommunication market. Do you have any idea when it's going to start?

A: It is probably difficult to estimate when it will start. Digicell has been visiting Timor Leste for the past three years designing our network, working on our business plan, looking at the existing operator and looking at where the opportunity might be.

We've also spent a lot of time presenting to government ministers, senior figures in government and a number of business people. As you are aware, we've opened out initial office in Dili. We're employing at the moment 12 people from the Dili region who've helped design the network for us and to go through the initial phases of setting up our business.

In terms of when the licence will come, the government has be­en committed for the last 18 mo­nths in terms of looking at the wh­­ole process of libereralisation and we are aware that the draft telec­oms policy paper has been completed and this is being handled at se­nior levels within government. The whole process now is that the exclusive concession that was granted to Portugal Telecom or Timor Telekom a number of years ago, that needs to be looked at. The government needs to extract itself from that exclusive concession that was granted to Portugal Telecom, or Timor Telecom, a number of years ago, that needs to be looked at. The government needs to extract itself from that exclusive concession which is certainly damaging the country in terms of development, has damaged the country in terms of telecommunications infrastructure which is very poor and among some of the highest rates in the world and if we look at broadband and internet connectivity for people within their own homes, for small businesses and even for large businesses in the country has been very damaging.

So we hope to see the process in the next six months will have accelerated. We know that there is a huge determination in government to see the process of liberalisation implemented and to see the entry of a new competitor into the telecommunications market.

Digicell would obviously like to be a company selected for a new licence in Timor-Leste; however we know that the government are going to go through a very detailed and transparent process to select the best company who fits best for the country and who give the best proposals for Timor-Leste.

Q: As the President of the Republic has told the public here, after the meeting in Suai, he came out and criticised badly Timor Telekom and it seems as if he's advertising Digicell. It seems as if he wants to see by the end of next year the telecommunications market to be liberalised, and he's hoping that Digicell is committed to invest millions and millions of dollars. For the first year, to have about 80% of the population having access to a phone connection in this country. What would you say to that?

A: I suppose I'm very biased because I've worked with Digicell for a very long time since it started its operations in the Caribbean. I'm wholeheartedly a big believer in Digicell and I've seen firsthand what it has done for developing economies quite similar to Timor-Leste around the world: from our very first operation in Jamaica through to the English-speaking, French-speaking and Dutch-speaking Caribbean, more recently into Central America and then into South America. We came to the Pacific region in 2006, and to date we have existing networks that we own and operate in five markets: in Fiji, Vanuatu, Samoa, Tonga and Papua New Guinea. We're about to launch our sixth network in the Pacific region, which is in the Republic of Nauru. So Digicell I wholeheartedly believe is the best fit for a country the size of Timor-Leste in terms of its economic development and in terms of where its telecommunications market is. I know we've received enormous support from the Government and we're very thankful for that, and we've received even bigger support, overwhelming support, from the people of Timor-Leste who quite frankly have been robbed of an affordable and accessible telecommunications service since Timor Telekom were given their exclusive concession.

We've travelled through the region extensively through the past couple of weeks in preparation for the Tour de Timor, and we were inundated talking to people who constantly complain about the fact that they haven't had access to telecommunications – for people who have, how expensive it has been and how unreliable it has been. So we know that because of this feedback we've received from the time that we've been in Timor-Leste and we're constantly receiving this feedback from people right throughout the country. So as a result there is a big commitment to make sure a new entrant is introduced. People who will know Digicell—our philosophy, our culture, and how we've performed in other markets—will know that we're a very good fit for this economy. As I said, we've launched in markets that have had one operator—a monopoly—for years, we've driven prices down, we've increased the range and quality of services. As you mentioned, our commitment is to launch with 80% population coverage on day one, which has been unheard-of in the landscape here so far, and we will guarantee that we will make telecommunications affordable and accessible to the vast majority of people in Timor-Leste within the first two to three years of our operation.

But our commitment is to launch by building a state-of-the-art network to give 80% population coverage and grow it from there. So we're not just interested in cherry-picking the big population centres; we think it's a basic human right that every individual should have access to affordable telecommunications. When you look at our operations in Papua New Guinea, Digicell has been awarded a humanitarian award last November for making telecommunications services available and affordable to people of Papua New Guinea. We've seen how our investment in that country has transformed the economic development of that country, not just in Papua New Guinea, but in every other market in which we've operated as well. We currently operate in 31 markets with over 10 million subscribers; our shareholders have invested US$3.5 billion in Digicell around the world, and we employ in the region of 5000 people. So Digicell is a company that reaches many countries around the world and has a vast experience in its 10 years of experience, and we know we're a very good fit, and we're very confident that the Government know we're a very good fit for this marketplace.

Q: In terms of financial investment, how much are you going to invest here to make these phone connections available for the people?

A: Sure. Our plans at the moment are confidential in terms of the actual size of what the investment will be, for competitive reasons; however, if you imagine to build a network of that size, it would probably cost in the region of US$65 million to US$80 million. That will mean that we will be erecting our own towers, having a very significant staff and management team of Timorese nationals who will work with our company; making sure that they're trained not just for this market, but we will bring people from Timor after we've trained them to other Digicell markets where our company operates, and to make sure they receive world-class training. And we're very confident from our knowledge of our initial staff base that we've taken on board and from our dealings working with people in Timor, that they're loyal, that they're hard-working, that they're trustworthy, and we know that the Timorese people will make a good effort within the Digicell organisation.

Q: What is the reason that you want to invest in this country?

A: This is a good question. I suppose when we examine any market in which there may be an opportunity, we always look to see how many operators—in terms of telecommunications operators there are in the marketplace; their level of penetration in terms of how many people are using the telecommunications services; we would look at the price of the services and the quality of the services in terms of how up-to-date the technology is.

We examined Timor-Leste a number of years ago. Every box that was on our list was ticked as "this is a good opportunity for us". There was a monopoly provider who had no respect from its customer base: even people who were heavy spenders and heavy users of telecommunications services were hugely critical of the company in terms of its poor customer care and its poor range of services in terms of its pricing; when we spoke to the people who didn't have access to telecommunications services they were obviously critical because they weren't given access, and they wanted to have telecommunications.

So the reason we're investing in this country is we feel it's a great opportunity for Timor-Leste, not only to introduce a state-of-the-art and modern telecommunications network, but to totally change and transform people's lifestyles. One of the areas that we've been looking at recently is mobile banking, with the increase of Timorese people who've opened bank accounts and started saving. Not just older people who are in the employment network, but younger people also who've opened bank accounts. And we've talked to banks who are here, particularly ANZ bank, and they've been very successful in encouraging people to open bank accounts, encouraging people to save money, encouraging people to look towards the future. And then we look at this issue of mobile banking and as we've seen in other first-world countries—and we believe that Timor will absolutely leapfrog from where it is today to being one of the leaders in the world in this area—where people will be able to transact using their mobile phone. So for example, people will be able to walk into a shop to buy their bread, buy their milk, buy their water and whatever other goods they need, and not necessarily use cash, not use a credit card or debit card for that transaction, but be able to take currency from their mobile phone and immediately transfer it to the shop owner. This is the very latest

technology,in terms of some of the most developed countries in the world, but we're confident that this is something that the people of Timor-Leste will understand, and we know from some of the initial tests that we've done that people will want this level of technology in the country.

The other area that we look at is in terms of broadband [internet] connectivity, and we look at—unfortunately—so many schools don't have access to the internet and we believe that this is absolutely and utterly unforgivable, that any telecommunications operator worth anything in the world should be looking at education and the development of the economy from the young people forward, so we're determined to provide high-speed access to broadband into schools to make sure that people can learn not just in their local language, but also in a number of other languages.

I was hugely encouraged by the number of languages that people in Timor can speak, and it's incredible to see how quickly people can switch from one language to another. We know that in local languages books haven't been published in local languages for various reasons, and we're very confident that we can have this leapfrog again where we won't have to have hard-copy books printed but that people will be able to use the internet to educate their students. But as I said those are two areas that we're looking at, and both are huge opportunities for the country.

What's more encouraging is that both fit right into the objectives of the government, because the government, as you're aware, has some huge objectives for this country that are hugely ambitious, but we know that they're determined to change the lives of people in Timor-Leste, and we know by our investment working in parallel with the Government's objectives, that this is going to be good for everybody.

We're absolutely delighted to be part of the tenth year anniversary in such a small way but perhaps in an important way by the sponsorship of the first international Tour de Timor bicycle race. Very much it's Digicell's philosophy that we embrace the culture and everything about a culture that we invest in, and it's been an emotional week for everybody, and I know that our staff and people who've been involved with the Tour have worked tirelessly day and night to make sure that it's been an enormous success, to make sure that it's sent out a phenomenal signal to the rest of the world as to what Timor-Leste is all about and how ready it is to become such a leading country in the region. Digicell is absolutely privileged and totally delighted to be associated with the anniversary and we wish everybody in Timor-Leste every success in the future as well.

Q: In terms of the security stability of the country, regarding the violence and warnings that are at times present, it seems that Digicell have another view on this issue.

A: We have absolutely no fear about the security, the wellbeing in the country. We're absolutely confident that it is a very safe place. We know that people in Timor are passionate about the development of the country moving forward. We've never had any incident where any of our staff members have been in a situation that has made them worry. We operate in some other very difficult countries – Haiti, for example, which has had a huge history of serious security issues and more recently in Honduras which you've seen in terms of the coup; Papua New Guinea which in some of the isolated areas is quite a dangerous country at times; but Timor-Leste has been nothing but positive. As I said, perhaps sometimes people's views about the country from the outside—because of lack of information, because of perhaps ignorance of people from other countries—has had a bad image from time-to-time.

But initiatives like the Tour de Timor in terms of how that sends out such a positive signal about the country is fantastic; but in saying that, Digicell has absolutely no problem in relation to security in the country.(ts)

Alkatiri Attacks Again on Corruption

Dili, Tempo Semanal

Former East Timorese pm Marie Alkatiri has said this week that this country is the most corrupt in the world.

Dr Alkatiri's attack, on the eve of the country's August 30 tenth anniversary of independence, was multi-pronged.

Not only did it go to the heart of the current government of Prime Minister Xanana Gusmao, but it had implications too for a report released this week showing that only a tenth of the international donations received in the last 10 years had gone into the country's economy.

The government had people in power who pocketed money and there needed instead to be transparency, he said.

Dr Alkatiri's statement came in the wake of a report released this week by La'o Hamutuk ("Walk Together"), the independent non-government organisation that analyses data relating to the countr­y's reconstruction and devel­opment.In the period of 1999-2009, the report said that outside agencies spent US$5.2 million on programs for Timor-Leste, but only around $550 million of this­ went into the economy.

Most of the rest of the money – or 90 per cent – went towards international salaries, overseas administration and procurement, and imported supplies.

The period covered in the report included four separate governments – that of the presidencies of Serzio Viera de Melo (UN­TAET) in 1999-2000, Marie Alk­a­tiri's in 2002-2006 and the 20­06-2007 presidencies of Stanislau da Silva and Jose Ramos Horta.

Speaking from his Dili home, Dr Alkatiri said that East Timor had hung on to whatever means it could to the big outside powers, and that Fretilin needed to serve the country with a legal and phy­sical infrastructure.

Dr Alkatiri said that the way in which Gusmao's government ha­d spent almost US$2 billion betwe­en 2007 and 2009 was unclear but that the current President had ­a commitment to sustain the eco­nomy through its oil reserves­ and human resources wit­hin a ­system that needed to be put­ in place for the country's stabilisation.

The June 2009 quarterly repor­t of the banking and payments authority of Timor-Leste, the Petroleum Fund of Timor-Leste, has shown that the Fund's capital grew from $4,750.08 million to $4,901.52 million.

In a­n exclusive interview with Tempo ­Semanal, East Timor's Pres­iden­t Dr Jose Ramos-Horta said t­he country's economy was in growth mode, but there was much to do in the coming years to further consolidate peace in East Timor­, improve governance, and fight and prevent corruption.

"There are a lot of allegations about corruption; much of it, is, I think, well founded. There is a real problem of corruption, we cannot deny this, because corruption means we are diverting money away from the people for the benefit of a few individuals,'' Dr Ramos-Horta said.

''I hear story after story of corru­ption and there is evidence about it so I'm determined, together with the Prime Minister, to stamp out corruption in this country.

''People didn't fight and die for us, later to have a corrupt go­­vernment and a corrupt sys­t­em."In marking East Timor's te­nt­h anniversary of its 1999 acce­p­tance of autonomy by refe­re­n­du­m from Indonesia's abusive occupation, which started with an invasion in 1975, there is another grim statistic to count: the new independent nation has received an estimated US$3 billion in international assistance, with various United Nations (UN) missions working alongside the government since full independence was attained in 2002.

Dr Alkatiri said that there was a need to create a sense of security in the country's own institutions and to show the people that these can deliver, Dr Alkatiri said.

Money had to be spent, he said, by the United Nations on items such as helicopters.

One of the contraditions at present was that East Timor was too small a country to have many rice fields, and instead brought in rice from overseas.The government was spending much more money than previously, or $US369 million in the four years of 2002-2006.There had to be transparency for the money that had been spent, otherwise people from outside would point their finger at the government.There was still poverty in East Timor while the government, instead of keeping money in the bank, put it instead in a drawer, which he said was a disaster.Dr Alkatiri said that money needed to be spent now on education and health care.

Among the benefits of independence was being able to really plan national development. Better structure and economic soundness would give the country credibility, he said. The problem now was also to manage East Timorese resources as a way of continuing into a better future.(ts)

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Mari Alkatiri Alega Korrupsaun Buras Iha AMP Nia Ukun

Dili, Tempo Semanál

Kazu korrupsaun ne'ebé agora dau­daun mosu iha Governu Aliansa Maioria Par­lamentár (AMP) nia ukun to'o ohin lo­ron sai preokupasaun boot ba povu Timor Le­ste, liu – liu ba partidu opozisaun sira tanba kazu korrupsaun ne'ebé akontese la'ós ko­rrupsaun ida ne'ebé ki'ikoan ne'e duni pre­s­iza halo investigasaun lalais. Atu hatene klaru ko­mentáriu husi Partidu opozisaun nian tuir ma­i ita akompaña inter vista ezekutivu ne'ebé Jornalista Tempu Semanál halo ho Sekretáriu Jerál Partidu Fretilín Dr Mari Alkatiri iha semana foin lalais ne'e.

Oinsá pozisaun bankada Fretilín, liu-liu partidu opozisaun sira nia hare kona ba kazu korrupsaun ne'ebé agora daudaun akontese iha ita nia nasaun ?

Kestaun ne'e hanesan preok­up­a­saun boot tanba kazu korrupsaun ne­'­ebé akontese iha Governu Aliansa Ma­i­oria Parlamentár (AMP) nia laran la'ós kazu ki'ik maibé osan ne'e juta ba juta n­e'ebé ita bele dehan katak mai husi tasi mane no lakon de'it iha tasi feto ne­'ebé signifika hanesan, osan ne'ebé mai husi mina rai nian ne'e mout de'it iha rai maran no derrepente mosu fali iha rai seluk. Ita hotu hatene katak tinan rua ona Go­vernu defaktu AMP nia ukun (IV Go­v­ernu Konstituisaun) osan hira mak sira ga­sta ona no ninia rezultadu mak ida ne­'ebé, maibé iha tinan 2008 nia laran da­la barak sira ko'alia katak iha susesu balu ne'ebé sira halo ona tanba konsege re­zolve problema petisionáriu nian, re­z­olve problema Alfredo tanba Alfredo mate, nune'e mós sira dehan rezolve ona problema IDPs nian maibé ba ami ida ne'e seidauk rezolve mais hadi'a de'it pro­blema tanba osan ne'ebé petisionáriu no IDPs sira simu hotu tiha ona ne'e du­ni agora sira atu halo tan saida tanba la iha kampu de serbisu ne'ebé di'ak. Maski agora daudaun kazu Majór Alfredo nian ne'ebé akontese iha 11 de Fe­vereiru iha tribunál ona maibé to'o ohin loron sei konfuzaun hela tanba sei­d­auk hatene loloos se mak iha kotuk, se ma­k iha oin no mós se mak iha sorin ne'e duni problema hirak ne'e seidauk rez­o­lve ne'e duni susesu ne'ebé sira dehan ne'e susesu saida nian. Alende ne'e sira mós dehan katak, tinan 2009 hanesan tinan infraestrutura nin­i­an maibé realidade ita nunka hare infr­a­e­strutura tanba taka kuak iha lurón de'it mós la hatene tanba taka ohin aban nakloke fila fali nune'e mós infraestrutura hirak ne'ebé agora daudaun sira inaugura ne'e ami nian hotu.Osan barak- barak ne'ebé Milhoes ba Milhoes ne'e lakon ba iha ne'ebé hotu, nune'e mós ita hatene katak iha korrupsaun boboot maibé Governu la iha inisiativa di'ak atu kombate korrupsaun tanba kombate korrupsaun la'ós atu hari de'it komisaun anti korrupsaun (KAK) mais kombate korr­u­psaun hahú iha governu nia laran kedas ho sistema ida ne'ebé di'ak hodi nune'e bele impede no prevene korru­p­s­aun ne'ebé mosu. Sekarik sistema ne'e ita sobu tomak hotu ona no ema hotu-hotu la'o ho osan kes inklui mós diretora sira ne'ebé ninia ga­veta nakonu ho kes entaun saa jestaun mak ida ne'e tanba hotu – hotu ba foti osan iha banku hodi gasta ba mai de'it. Nune'e mós iha orsamentu ne'ebé de­h­an atu uza ba buat ida maibé sira gasta fali ba buat seluk depois to'o tempu atu presiza osan hodi uza dehan fali osan la iha ona tanba uza hotu ona. Maski agora daudaun provedór halo ona ninia investigasaun no rezultadu balu komesa fó sai ona para atu husu ba prokuradór jerál hodi investiga maibé kazu korrupsaun iha alfándega ás ba beibeik nune'e mós ate osan ne'e be fó ba ferik ho katuas sira ema balu sei kobra tan U$ 5 dolar entaun to'o bainhira loos mak inve­s­tigasaun ne'e atu hala'o. Nune'e mós projetu sira ne'e fó de'it no agora sira halo simulasaun hodi hatudu kat­ak iha konkursu maibé antes atu loke ko­nkursu sira rasik hatene ona se mak atu manan mais kuandu ema ne'e mak la manan entaun sira halo fali retender atu nune'e bele entrega ba ema ne'ebé sira hili.foin lalais mosu alegasaun korrupsaun ida ne'ebé mai husi Primeiru Ministru (PM) katak entrega projetu ba ninia família ne'e duni loos ka la loos tenke inv­e­stiga la'ós husik liu de'it depois dehan fali PM ninia família mós iha direitu atu moris. Sim,….sidadaun hotu – hotu iha dire­itu atu moris maibé buat hotu tenke liu husi prosedimentu no mós ten­ke tuir lei tanba kuandu la tuir lei no prosedura ne'ebé iha entaun ida ne'e signifika hanesan korrupsaun tanba iha jogu de influensia ne'e duni buat hirak ne'e hotu hamosu preo­k­upasaun boot tanba osan lubuk ne'ebé gasta hotu ona ne'e mak investe duni ho di'ak entaun oras ne'e dezenvolvimentu iha timor bele la'o ona ba oin.

Ohin ita boot ko'alia katak fó projetu ba família, maibé iha ne'e mosu alegasaun ida ne'ebé dehan katak iha momentu ita boot nia ukun mós hanesan ?

Sekarik ha'u fó projetu ba ha'u nia oan, ha'u nia maun ka ha'u nia kaben en­taun ha­'u dezafia PM Kay Rala Xa­n­ana Gusmão ho ­ninia Governu atu prova bu­at ida ne'e tan­ba ne'e mak ha'u dehan prosedura tenke iha no tenke respeita lei tanba ha'u nunka asi­na projetu ba ema ida liu-liu ba ha'u nia família ne'e du­ni ha'u dezafia. Tanba kritériu avaliasaun ba projetu te­nder ne'e téknika la'ós polítika ne'e duni té­kniku sira mak deside la'ós ha'u mak asina tan­ba ha'u nunka asina buat ruma.

Iha momentu ida ami husu pergunta s ba PM katak saida mak akontese iha kazu fó projetu ba nia oan, maibé PM esklarese katak husi nia parte hakarak atu halo investigasaun hahú husi tinan 2002 mai leten ?

Ha'u dezafia PM Xanana no husu atu lalika hahú de'it husi 2002 maibé di'ak liu ha­hú husi 2000 tanba iha momentu ne­'ebá ha'u mós hanesan ministru asu­n­tu ekonómiku de­pois mak ba Primeiru Ministru. Resposta ne'e hanesan resposta ida n­e'ebé moe la iha tanba ninia prinsípiu mak ha­nesan, ida seluk uluk halo entaun ha'u mó­s iha direitu atu halo maibé ku­a­ndu ida sel­uk uluk la halo depois mak ha'u halo ent­aun oinsá, ne'e duni karik ida seluk uluk halo mais la fó direitu ba nia atu halo tanba nia dehan tama para atu­ hadi'a la'ós tama hodi halo tuir fali.

Kazu korrupsaun ninia impaktu ba dezenvolvimentu ne'e oinsá?

Korrupsaun hotu-hotu signifika iha i­m­paktu negativu tanba kuandu iha korrupsaun ko­n­serteza ema lubun oan ida mak sai riku ba beibeik maibé barak liu mak kiak nafatin no ki'ik liu tan.Labele hanoin katak fó de'it U$ 20 dolar ba ema depois dehan katak rezolve ona pro­blema ema kiak nian, nune'e mós labele ha­noin katak sosa tratór no fahe naran – naran de'it ne'e hanesan ajuda ona agrikultór sira tanba sosa tratór ne'e hanesan projetu ida atu hatama osan iha sira nia bolsu maibé la'ós ho objetivu atu ajuda agrikultór, ne'e du­ni se kuandu sira ninia objetivu hakarak atu ajuda agrikultura entaun primeiru tenke or­ganiza uluk agrikultór sira hodi fó kap­a­s­itasaun ba sira para oinsá bele uza tratór ho d­i'ak, ida ne'e mak dehan ajuda tanba la'ós lori foos mai hodi fa'an baratu maibé hakarak obriga para ema halo natar. Ha'u la'ós dehan katak labele ajuda foos ba ema, maibé iha tempu krize ita presiza aj­uda duni mais ita labele halo jestaun ba rai ida ne'e katak tinan ba tinan sai hanesan em­erjénsia hela de'it entaun ida ne'e la loos tanba ita tenke iha konseitu dezenvolvimentu de progresu"

Maibé tuir PM katak kestaun ida ne'e hanesan reforma saun ?

Ita foin hari estadu iha tinan lima nia laran ha­nesan foin mak tau ai – rin maibé atu reforma saida entaun ida ne'e signifika atu atu sobu la'ós reforma tanba foin mak tau ai-rin no seidauk tau kakuluk maibé sira komesa sobu ona sistema hodi nune'e mak osan kes ta­ma gaveta ne'e.Hahalok ida ne'e loloos de'it ita fa'an s­as­aen iha kios tanba ema mai sosa sa­saen osan ita hatama ba gaveta ne'ebé iha lian po­rtugés hateten 'Jestaun de kan­toneiru' maibé jestaun estadu labele ha­nesan ne'e tanba estadu hanesan sistema ida ne'ebé hatuur hela iha ninia fatin ne'e duni osan hir­ak ne'e ninia fatin mak banku la'ós iha ga­veta diretór ka ministru ninian.

Karik ita boot iha dadus konkreta ruma ne'ebé hatudu katak família Ministru nian se mak agora riku liu?

Ha'u lakohi temi ema nia naran mais hakarak hateten katak buat ne'ebé bolu sinál da rikeza ne'e ita hare momoos tanba ema ne'­ebé tinan rua ba kotuk la iha buat ida ma­is agora iha raketa rua ou tolu ne'e duni si­nál da rikeza hatudu katak to'o ona atu halo inisiasaun hodi halo investig­a­s­aun tanba nu­sa mak ema ida manan mil dolar kada fulan be­le hetan lalais raketa rua ka tolu iha ninia uma, karik ita presiza ha­tene iha rendimentu seluk ka la iha". Bainhira atu ko'alia kona ba korr­up­s­a­un iha ha'u nia ukun hanesan PM "ha'u bolu kedas inspetór jerál no halo kedan de­spaxu hodi investiga ne'e duni iha ha'u nia tempu kazu ne'ebé investiga kuaze 60 resin. Maski iha momentu ne'ebá pro­v­e­dór seidauk iha, maibé kuandu inspetór jer­ál hala'o ona inve­s­ti­gasaun la iha membru governu ida ne'ebé atu nega hodi fó informasaun no dokumentu mais iha tempu agora ha'u la hare tanba dehan katak hein fali KAK mak sei halo serbisu entaun to'o bain hira loos maka atu hala'o.Nune'e mós dehan fali katak kuandu KAK mak mai entaun sira sei ke'e hahú husi 2002 maibé signifika katak antes atu ke'e husi 2002 nian mai to'o 2007 governu ida ne'e liu no balu halai tiha ona. Ha'u sente fasil ba governu ida ne'e atu he­tan informasaun kona ba governu interiór ni­nian purke agora sira mak ukun no mós d­okumentu hotu iha ne'ebá, ne'e duni di'ak liu publika buat sira ne'e hotu katak governu uluk iha korrupsaun maibé tanba saida to'o agora sira seidauk publika no dehan fali sira lakohi atu mai ke'e. Ha'u la'ós dehan katak governu ida uluk ne'e 100% mós maibé iha sistema nia laran imp­osivel iha korrupsaun.

Governu AMP dehan katak sira susesu tanba hakarak atu dada pipeline mai TL?

Bom.... se sira konsege dada pi­­pe­lina mai TL entaun ha'u fo par­a­béns ba sir­a purke ita hotu manan nune'e mós da­la barak ha'u hateten ba ema wodside nian katak maski ha'u la'ós ona iha Go­vernu maibé defende nafatin katak pipeline ten­ke mai TL ha'u la hare Governu nia ka­pa­si­dade atu hala'o programa kalen­d­á­riu ida hodi halo negosi­as­a­un tanba sira so hatene de'it mak halo wor­s­h­o­p n­o sem­i­náriu, maibé ida ne'e la'ós neg­osiasaun tan­ba wo­rshop ho se­min­áriu ne'e atu halo estudu de té­k­nik­u mais estudu ték­niku ne'e atu fó ma­i ita instrumentu ho­di ita bele uza halo negosiasaun, no nego­si­a­s­aun ne'e ita tenke ha­tene ohin atu uza sai­da no a­ban atu u­za saida, la'ós bu­at ne'e ita pu­blika tomak hotu tiha de­pois dehan tenke mai entaun ida ne'e hatudu katak ita la iha kap­as­ida­de atu halo negósiu.

Uluk Presidente da Repúblika hu­su ha'u atu lider a prosesu ida ne'e tanba ha­nesan Timor oan ne'ebé hakarak pip­e­line mai iha ne'e entaun ha'u simu maski be­le dehan katak tudik kro'at ida iha ha'u nia sorin – sorin tanba kuandu ha'u simu m­ak buat ne'e di'ak no susesu entaun susesu ne'e sira nian maibé bainhira ha'u simu tiha mak buat ne'e sai aat entaun insusesu ne'e ha'u nian.Maski nune'e ma­ibé ha'u simu nafatin, mais komu labarik balu CNRT nian iha Parlamentu hakilar ka­tak la di'ak entaun ha'u labele atu ba halo nego­siasaun iha ne'ebá se kuandu e­ma fai hela tudik husi ha'u nia kotuk tanba ida ne'e bele halo ha'u la susesu.

Kuandu hakarak atu ha'u avansa ba nego­siasaun entaun ema hotu – hotu tenke fó apoiu ba ha'u maibé kuandu kom­esa kritika ona di'ak liu lalika maibé ha'u de­fende nafatin katak pipeline tenke mai TL.

Foin lalais organizasaun Labeh husu Vise PM ba Asuntu Admin­is­tr­as­aun Governasaun atu rezigna an tanba dehan katak loron 100 ona maibé nia la halo buat ida. .?

Laiha parte ida iha mundu mak dehan katak ema ida konsege kombate korrupsaun iha 100 dias nia laran ne'e duni ita tenke onestidade tanba NGO sira keta hanoin katak buat sira ne'e atu halo naran – naran de'it. Ha'u mós hateten katak Eng. Mário Viegas Carrascalão sei la kons­eg­e atu halo buat ruma tanba fatin ne'e nia funsaun la'ós mesak ba ema ida nia­n", nune'e mós ha'u sente susar tebes – tebes bainhira hatama de'it ema ida para atu muda tanba kuaze Inst­i­tu­i­saun governu nian hotu hotu halo kor­r­upsaun ne'e duni uluk nanain tenke halo mudansa ba sistema atu nune'e bel­e taka odamatan ba korrupsaun no la'ós atu loke fali odamatan no janela ba korrupsaun depois mak hatama de'it ema ida atu kombate. Sr. Mário Carrascalão hanoin kat­ak sistema ne'e hanesan provínsia nian, maibé lae ida ne'e oin seluk tanba ul­uk sistema Indonézia sira mak monta no ­agora ne'e ita mak tenke hari ita nia sist­ema rasik.

Tuir ita boot nia hare buat ne'ebé Vise PM Mário Carrascalão halo ne'e iha mudansa ka oinsá?

Sekarik ha'u mak iha Sr Mário Carrascalão nia fatin entaun ha'u halo se­rbisu barak no ko'alia menus, maibé ag­ora nia tama tiha iha governu no en­vezde nia atu lori kazu balu ba ko­nsellu ministru hodi debate maibé to'o ikus nia rasik mak ko'alia fali ba públiku ka­tak korrupsaun iha 50% mais tuir lol­oos nia labele ba iha públiku hodi fó fali kritika ba Governu ida ne'e.Uluk iha ha'u nia governu Pre­si­de­n­te da Repúblika agora daudaun ne'e mós hanesan ne'e tanba nia hola parte iha governu mais nia kritika fali governu mais la lori ba konsellu de Ministru.

Karik ida ne'e signifika katak governu nia laran iha opozisaun ?

opozisaun bele iha governu nian laran, maibé opozisaun ne'e tenke kon­strutivu hodi lori sasaen ba kons­ellu ministru no diskute ho PM atu para atu hadi'a la'ós ba fali deklara iha públiku katak korrupsaun 50% ona ne­'e duni se kuandu ha'u mak bele prende ema entaun Komarka Bekora nakonu ona. Sekarik nia rekoñese katak labele atu halo buat ida entaun di'ak liu rezi­gna an mais la'ós tanba 100%. Nu­ne'e mós inves de nia ko'alia aat Go­v­ernu entaun di'ak liu sa'e atu nune'e nia labele fo'er atu nune'e sira seluk de'it mak mesak fo'er.

Karik liafuan ne'ebé Sr Mário Carrascalão ko'alia ne'e fó vantajen ba opozisaun?

Sim.. naturalmente fó vantajen ba opozisaun, maibé ha'u ko'alia tuir ne­sesidade instituisaun estadu nian atu servisu loloos tanba ohin sira mak uk­un no aban Fretilín mak ukun fali ne'e d­uni sekarik Ministru ida mak iha Fr­e­tilín nia laran envezde atu lori sasan ba konsellu Ministru mais nia koa'lia fali ba liur entaun ha'u hasai kedas ni­an sekarik ha'u mak Primiriu Ministru tanba uluk ne'e mak tolera Dr Jose Ramos Horta maibe aban bain rua sei la tolera tan ema ida.

Agora daudaun ema balu hahú fó komentáriu katak sei iha grupu elit husi membru governu ou membru órgaun de soberania sira kria hela elit para bele ukun to'o rai ida ne'e no sira agora asesu ba podér depois asesu tan iha rikeza ?

Lala'ok hirak ne'e hanesan sis­t­e­ma Soeharto nian ne'ebé bolu naran sis­tema de kompadriu tanba ita hare mo­moos katak iha ne'ebá ne'e mesak kompadre no komadre sira de'it mak hamutuk, nune'e mós tanba la iha part­i­du ida mak hanesan Fretilín hodi halo opozisaun tanba ne'e mak nia monu mais agora lae tanba iha o­na partidu istóriku ne'ebé mak halo opozisaun ba buat hirak ne'e hotu tan ne'e sira ne'ebé na'ok osan no halo korrupsaun pre­para an tanba kuandu ami fila kons­erteza Voeberek sei loke fila fali tanba komarka Bekora de'it la to'o.­

­­Oinsá ita boot nia hare kona eis militár Indonéziu nian ne'ebé uluk ko­mete mos krime maibé agora daudaun he­tan projetu husi Governu. ?

Ha'u rasik la kompriende saa tipu aliansa mak ida ne'e, aliansa naturál, desnatural no kontra naturál purke ida ne'e aliansa kontra natureza tanba ba sosa fali kilat ka ekipamentu forsa armada nian husi militár ne'ebé ke kontra natureza entaun nia atu lori kilat ne'e mai husi ne'ebé. Uluk iha tempu gerrilla nian ita sosa kilat husi militár indonézia tanba sira na'ok husi kuartél mai fa'an ba ita maibé agora ita hakarak atu sira na'ok iha indonézia hodi lori mai ita, maibé atu sosa kilat hakarak hateten de'it katak ohin loron negósiu sosa kilat ne'e kontroladu no tenke tuir dalan no lei tanba selae aban bain rua ema bele dehan ita halo tráfiku ilegál, ne'e duni kuandu estadu ida mak halo fali tráfiku ilegál da armas entaun estadu ida ne'e hanesan estadu bandidu. (ts)

Amo Basilio: Korrupsaun TL Hanesan 'Benang Kusut'

Baucau,Tempo Semanál

Maski Nasaun Timor-Leste ezemplu hanesan labarik ne'ebé foin aprende atu tuur metin, maibé problema korrupsaun sai han­e­san moras aat ida hodi empata dadaun bebe oan ne'e hodi tur mesak tanba tuir rea­l­idade ne'ebé hatudu TL koñesidu korrupsaun boot liu iha mundu. Hodi nune'e kuandu halo kom­p­a­r­a­saun sai hanesan 'benang ku­sut,' kuandu dada obriga sei kotu no­ la aproveita. Atu hatene di'ak liu saida tuir Igreja nia haree entaun tuir mai akompaña hamutuk da­da lia ne'ebé TS hala'o ho Bispo Dioseze Baucau Dom Basílio do Nascimento, han­e­san tuir mai ne'e. Tuir observasaun Je­rál Timor-Leste ne'e la'ós krize polítika ou kri­ze mentalidade ema nian, maibé tanba krize Kultura no krize valores.Tanba ne'e ham­osu korrupsaun barak iha Nasaun nurak ho tinan 10 indepen­dén­sia, korrupsaun ne'e rasik hamate valores Ukun An no ida ne'e mo­ras aat ida ne'ebé la di'ak ba Nasaun, inklui sei fo konsekuénsia ba dezen­vo­l­v­i­me­n­tu Nasionál.

Oinsá Amo nia haree Prosesu Jul­g­a­mentu ne'ebé la'o daudaun ba arguidu Gastão Salsinha ho nia grupu kona ba hahalok krime atentadu 11 Fevereiru 2008?

Ha'u gosta hare katak, prosesu Justisa la'o daudaun iha Timor-Leste, tanba pro­b­l­e­­ma atentadu ida ne'e problema Timor oan tomak sira nian. Problema ne'e la'ós de'it po­vu TL mak hein rezultadu, maibé opin­i­aun Komunidade Internasionál moos hein pr­­o­­­sesu atentadu 11 Fevereiru atu fo rezu­l­tadu saida mak Estadu bele fo nune'e atu ema hotu hatene. Ita hotu sei hanoin katak, akontesimentu at­entadu ha'u bolu akontese ida ne'e ha­ne­s­an mistériu ida. Katak akontesimentu mo­su duni, maibé ita la hatene loloos. Tanba ida ne­'e ho okaziaun no iha tempu, liu husi Jus­tisa atu ita hatene kona ba lia loos ba ako­n­t­e­simentu ida ne'e. Altura ne'ebá ita rona isu-isu no rumoris ba­rak-barak, lider sira deskonfia ba malun, pa­rtidu polítika sira soe fo'er ba malun. Tan ne'e prosesu Justisa kuandu hala'o atu hatudu katak se mak sai xave ba ako­n­te­s­imentu 11 Fevereiru 2008, ne'e mak arguidu Salsinha ho nia grupu ne'ebé tuir prosesu Julgamentu.Too ona tempu atu Timor oan tomak rona lia loos husi Sr. arguidu Salsinha ho nia gru­pu, depois de ida ne'e ida-idak sei res­p­on­sabiliza ba nia hahalok no simu nia kon­s­ek­u­énsia. Iha aprovasaun no iha tes­t­emuña katak arguidu sira ne'e sala entaun si­mu nia kon­sekuénsia. Nune'e ba ida ne'­ebé de­s­k­o­nfia de'it no ida ne'ebé soe fo'er ba malun de'it, iha tempu atu hadi'a no ha­m­o­os fali sira nia naran.

Too oras ne'e iha ona ema na'in 20 ne'ebé tuir prosesu Julgamentu, karik sira ne'e sai arguidu hotu?

Ha'u hanoin ida ne'e prosesu Tribunál ninian, tanba ne'e husik ba Tribunál mak rona lia no tesi lia, tanba prosesu ida ne'e mak sai hanesan dasi, hodi hare ho matan mos se mak sala no se mak la sala.

Iha Prosesu ne'e kuandu temi Lider no ukun na'in ruma nia naran oinsá?

Sim, kuandu temi sai lider nia naran ne'e kategoria akuzasaun ona, depois Tribunál sira mak sei hare fali katak, ema nia naran ne'ebé temi iha prosesu Justisa ne'e loos ou lae. Tanba Prosesu Julgamentu ne'e hahú ona prosesu Justisa. Agora saida mak iha aku­zasaun ne'e nia laran. Nehek saida mak iha laran, ular ho sakunar sira. Lalar saida-sa­ida mak tama iha laran, karau vaka no timur hira mak envolve, karau balun mutin no metan, prosesu Justisa sei hare no kaer ida-idak atu halo investigasaun atu naran si­ra ne'ebé temi ne'e sai Lia Loos ida ka lae

Amo iha esperansa katak prosesu ne'e sei hetan Lia Loos?

Ha'u nia esperansa ne'e hateten katak, primeiru rai Timor ne'e hakmatek ho ak­o­n­t­e­s­imentu atentadu 11 Fevereiru, hafoin ida ne­'e akuzadu no arguidu sira ne'e sei simu nia konsekuénsia, hafoin atu bele simu fali nia naran atu moos.

Ba Justisa rasik kuandu fo duni rezultadu mak prosesu Justisa la'o duni ona ho di'ak no kapás no haboot Justisa Timor nia naran iha Timor-Leste. Katak maski Justisa Timor nia­­n la'o ho neineik liu no kleur, maibé Justisa ha­la'o duni no hatudu ba povu Timor tomak no ­komunidade Internasionál katak, prosesu Judisiáriu hala'o duni ninia knaar ho di'ak. Tanba sistema Judisiáriu ne'e liu husi ha­halok, tanba ha'u hanoin katak sistema Ju­disiáriu ne'e iha la'ós de'it uma ka edifísiu Tr­ibunál, maibé iha aktore hotu-hotu, Pro­k­ur­adór, Juis no Polisia, ne'e mak tama iha pr­osesu ida ne'e nia laran atu haboot liu tan.

Timor-Leste nia naran hahú aat iha ko­m­unidade Internasionál nia matan tan­b­a alegasaun KKN atuasaun saida mak PM Xanana pratika atu hadi'a fali imajen Timor?

Bainó, korrupsaun ne'e iha fatin hotu-hotu akontese no iha , maibé atu prova korr­u­p­­saun ne'e susar la halimar. Tanba ne'e de­­­zde Governu Fretilín too Governu AMP iha buat ida naran korrupsaun, hodi hateten ka­tak, ida ne'e mak korrupsaun no lider sira mak koruptor, ema hateten bei-beik de'it. Ma­ibé moos too agora ha'u hein katak, korr­u­p­s­aun ne'e mai husi ema lanu aat ida, hodi halo korruptu ida ne'e no korruptu ida ne'ebá.

Korrupsaun pur ezemplu foin daudauk, ha'u rona tratór nian ne'e. Maibé Vise PM As­­untu Administrasaun Ir. Mário Viegas Ca­r­rascalão nia ibun liu husi televizaun hat­e­ten, nia rasik hare ho matan no la iha duni kor­­rupsaun iha primeiru faze. Maibé moos faze ida ne'e la akontese korrupsaun.

Maibé, iha Parlamentu Nasionál hakilar beibeik katak, korrupsaun ne'e iha no mos ita rona husi lurón katak korrupsaun ne'e iha?

Agora moos ita hare rezultadu balun hat­u­d­u daudaun, ba ema ne'ebé mak simu saláriu la too atu halo uma boot no uma an­dár 'rumah bertingkat' derrepente de'it mosu uma boot ne'ebé mak ho kondisaun di'ak. Nune'e moos funsionáriu sira balun ne'ebé ho 'gaji' natoon de'it derrepente de'it karreta no oan sira moos iha hotu karreta tolu, entaun osan sira ne'e mai husi fatin ruma karik. Domingu semana mai oin ne'e liturjia sei kolia kona ba ida ne'e. Evanjellu Do­m­i­ngu ne­'e nia multiplika dos País ne'ebé Jesus ha­lo paun sai barak. Entaun ita iha Ti­mor ha­lo Milagre boot ida, ema sira ne­'­ebé mak kiak sai riku derrepente de'it. Je­sus nian ne'e halo Milagre halo paun sai barak, maibé Milagre ita Timor nia dehan halo korrupsaun. Milagre Jesus nian ne'e paun sai barak ho testemuña s Ap­óstolu sira nian. Maibé, milagre ita Timor ni­an ne'e halo duni paun sai barak, maibé ba de'it ema ida no ema balun de'it mak he­tan iha nia liman. Tanba ne'e buat ida ne­'e atu la'o oinsá ita sei la hatene loloos, ma­ski ita hatene katak, ko­r­rupsaun ne'e iha ninia konsekuénsia. Tanba ne­'e ku­andu ita atu aprova katak, Lider ida ne'e halo korrupsaun maibé antes osan ne'e too iha fatin ida liu ona husi ema barak nia liman.

Karik hari tan KAK bele rezolve?

Ha'u hein katak, Komisaun Anti Korr­u­p­s­a­un (KAK) ne'e funsiona duni, maibé iha belun polítiku ida ema li'ur, nia dehan ha­n­e­s­an ne'e:Komisaun ne'e dala barak la halo bu­at ida. Komisaun sira ne'e ema halo no h­a­ri la'ós atu rezolve problema s, maibé atu ha­­maus no hametin ema nia laran. Tanba ku­andu ita moris ho pro­b­l­e­m­a, ema dehan imi lalika preokupa tanba ami halo ona Komisaun ida hodi rezolve imi nia problema s sira ne'e.Kuandu povu rona ona informasaun Ko­misaun sira ne'e mak povu nia laran sei mate no metan. T­anba ne'e Komisaun ne'­e hari atu rezolve problema, ha'u ha­noin sei la rezolve problema s,tanba dala ba­rak la rezolve problema.Maibé, Komisaun ne'e rasik sei mul­tiplika hodi dada tempu no dada tempu, bai­nhira too loron ida ema kuandu haluha ona prontu Komisaun moos lakon ona. Pelu­menus halo netik buat ruma atu depois ita hare katak funsionamentu Komisaun ne'e la'o duni ho responsabilidade.

Públika sai ona katak, dezde Governu Fretilín too agora Korrupsaun sa'e too 50 %?

Loos, tanba mai duni, husi Vise PM Carrascalão nia ibun ne'e todan, tanba ema ida ne'e iha duni esperiénsia uluk nian katak Anti Korrupsaun ne'e boot ida. Tanba ne'e bainhira Ir. Carrascalão simu responsabilidade asuntu Sosiál nian. Ha'u laran metin no hanoin katak, nia hatene buat barak, maibé moos Ir. Carrascalão mesak de'it. Ne'e duni nia moos labele too iha fatin hotu-hotu. Ita iha Ir. Carrascalão 50 karik entaun buat korrupsaun ne'e sei la'o loos liu. Tanba husi 50 ne'e rasik sei hare ba problema ida-idak no servisu ida-idak iha Governu nia laran. Maibé, tanba nia me­s­ak entaun nia moos labele halo buat ida atu hare 50%, ne'e Ir. Carrascalão hat­e­t­en buat ne'e tanba nia hatene buat barak, maibé nia labele lolo liman ba fatin hotu.

Maske KKN ne'e iha 50% maibe iha realidade fo konsekuensia diak ruma ba dezenvolvimentu?

Boun, buat ida korrupsaun ne'e sempre nunka halo di'ak, tanba korrupsaun ne'e halo inferiór oin-oin, interiór droga nian. Interiór alkol nian, interiór Kons­ti­tu­i­s­aun nian, depois mosu tan sosiedade Se­k­retu, sosiedade paralelu sira ne'e, hodi org­aniza sira nia an hanesan fali Governu, hafoin buat ida osan ne'e for­te liu fali Est­a­du. Forte liu fali militár, nune'e moos osan ne­'e bolu In Polisia, entaun buat ida osan ne'e nia dalan mak Korrupsaun.

Matenek balun aproveita no gosta ho atitude KKN, tuir Amo nia hanoin?

Kuandu ita kolia hanesan mehi h­a­karak atu buat hotu lakon, maibé iha fatin hotu-hotu no iha sosiedade hotu buat ida ne­'e akontese. Korrupsaun ne'e bele dim­inui no bele hamenus, lakon ne'e nunka mais atu lakon.

Mais atu too ida ne'e Autoridade sira nia polítika no Tribunál sira mak ten­ke ma­k­aas atu luta hasoru matenek na'in sira ne­'e. Depois iha moos es­p­e­s­ialista sira te­nke ba suut iha fatin hotu. Ezemplu esp­e­sialista sira tenke halo peskiza saun kona ba Admin­is­tr­a­saun no ekonomia nian, tenke kont­ro­la buat sira ne'e tenkesér iha e­ma sira ne'ebé makaas no ema ne'e te­n­ke moos. Dala barak moos hirak ne'ebé ha­lo kontrola, kuandu ema tau tiha mina nu­'u iha sira nia liman, entaun inves de sir­a mak halo kontrola ho di'ak, maibé sira mak namdoras uluk ona.

Ida ne'e karik ita kategoria bas a ida?

Ida ne'e krize Kultura no krize va­lores katak, korrupsaun ne'e hamate va­lores. Foin daudauk ha'u rona istéria ida Sekretaria ida husi Presidente Instituisaun ida nian moos ema ba husu atu hasuru Presidente Instituisaun ne'e Sekretaria ne'e kobra fali osan. Entaun kuandu imi jornalista sira hakarak mai kolia ho ha'u tenke ha'u fo hatene ha'u nia Sekretaria hodi husu ka kobra osan ba imi.Maibé, se ita halo buat ida ne'e hanesan Kultura entaun Timor ne'e ita lori ba iha ne'ebé. Tanba ne'e mak korru­psaun ne'e la'ós krize mental­i­da­d­e ou krize buat seluk tan, maibé krize valór no krize Kultura nian.Tanba ne'e ita Timor oan sira tenke hanoin hamutuk atu oinsá ita Timor ne'e lab­ele sai na'ok teen hanesan ema sel­u­k. Ita Timor ne'e kopia de'it mak ema nia aat sira ne'e iha ita nia rain, kom­p­o­rtamentu ema nian la di'ak ita moos halo tuir hotu.

Sa ida mak bele halo para hetan Solusaun ruma ?

Atu fo nia solusaun ba hahalok sira ne'e liu husi eskola no edukasaun kompletu, liu husi família no liu husi so­s­iedade, tanba edukasaun ne'e h­a­t­e­t­en ba ita katak, atu fo naroman ba ita nia neon hodi halo di'ak no atu moris di'ak.Tanba ne'e liu husi oportunidade ita boot sira nia komunikasaun sosiál, ha­karak hateten katak, ita Timor ne'e sei­­dauk iha konsiénsia katak, ita Timor ne'­e Independente ona. Maibé, ita Timor ne'e hein de'it ema seluk mak mai atu rezolve ita nia problema rasik. Kuandu ha'u iha problema tenke hatene katak, ha'u mak rezolve ha'u nia problema, ne'e duni ha'u la sente katak Timor ne'e ha'u nia hanesan ha'u pertense ba Nasaun ida no povu ida, se Timor ne'e di'ak ha'u moos di'ak, se Ti­mor ne'e aat entaun ha'u moos aat. Tanba ne'e ita Timor oan sira labele ho mentalidade ida ne'e. Ou keta balun hanoin ho mentalid­a­de Antigu Kombatente s tenke ha'u mak uluk, se ha'u mak Antigu no eis Go­­­vernante ha'u mak tenke uluk, ent­a­un tau uluk fali ita nia interese, maibé la tau uluk interese Nasaun nian, tan­ba ne'e ita Timor oan ida-idak mak te­nke responsavel ba Nasaun ne'e nia di'ak.(but)